Comments on: Canada's Lead Climate Negotiator Answers to You http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/ tracking climate negotiators on the road to Copenhagen Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:33:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Meme Mine http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-375 Meme Mine Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:16:43 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-375 Are you willing to bet that history will view the CO2 theory being valid and that threatening our children with climate death was worth it, as responsible parents, not to mention progressive civilized human beings? I’m sorry but I can’t do this “end of the world” bit anymore without feeling like history is already laughing and cursing at me. Look your kids in the eyes please and you may rethink this environmental emergency and see this state of urgency and fear in true focus. I don’t think that supporting this CO2 theory is responsible anymore because I think don’t think that promising our kids a sick planet from CO2, for another quarter of a century is sustainable or morally accountable for another two and a half decades of predictions. And we all grapple with the confusing reality of colder temperatures yet more pictures of Polar Bears drowning and scientists saying that what we see is not what we really see. Since precaution is the influencing force behind this 23 year old CO2 theory, I’m going to side with precaution and not let myself look anymore foolish than I feel right now as I’m telling our kids that we must save the planet for them. Simply put, I’ve waited long enough and a force strong enough to end “life as we know it-IPCC”, on the planet should have happened by now. Waiting any longer is as self fulfilling prophecy and I’m willing to bet against this theory officially as AL Gore and the political scientists and hysterical media fight it out in this media feeding frenzy. And who isn’t embarrassed by these silly headlines of global warming scientists saying CO2 will or may not be causing everything from racism to earthquakes. Look at it this way, denying this CO2 business does not mean that you are now anti environment, it just means that we should do everything to preserve, protect and respect nature instead of trying to rescue planet Earth with needless fear from a CO2 mistake. Our air is in fact cleaner than the smoggy 70’s, a fact that all of the enviro groups admit. We just have to remove this failed CO2 threat. And at the same time we are being the NEW GREENS of environmentalism, we can still see the need for directing our energies to real issues like the carnage on our highways, poverty, recycling, energy alternatives and better health care, housing and financial opportunities for more people to achieve a higher living standard. The NEW GREENS are not just deniers; we are the new leaders of Rachel Carson’s environmental movement who don’t want to be remembered for perpetrating this climate WMD scam concerning the obviously failed CO2 theory. Resulting cooling disproves predicted warming. Preserve, protect and respect our worldly surroundings. Are you willing to bet that history will view the CO2 theory being valid and that threatening our children with climate death was worth it, as responsible parents, not to mention progressive civilized human beings?
I’m sorry but I can’t do this “end of the world” bit anymore without feeling like history is already laughing and cursing at me. Look your kids in the eyes please and you may rethink this environmental emergency and see this state of urgency and fear in true focus. I don’t think that supporting this CO2 theory is responsible anymore because I think don’t think that promising our kids a sick planet from CO2, for another quarter of a century is sustainable or morally accountable for another two and a half decades of predictions. And we all grapple with the confusing reality of colder temperatures yet more pictures of Polar Bears drowning and scientists saying that what we see is not what we really see.
Since precaution is the influencing force behind this 23 year old CO2 theory, I’m going to side with precaution and not let myself look anymore foolish than I feel right now as I’m telling our kids that we must save the planet for them. Simply put, I’ve waited long enough and a force strong enough to end “life as we know it-IPCC”, on the planet should have happened by now. Waiting any longer is as self fulfilling prophecy and I’m willing to bet against this theory officially as AL Gore and the political scientists and hysterical media fight it out in this media feeding frenzy. And who isn’t embarrassed by these silly headlines of global warming scientists saying CO2 will or may not be causing everything from racism to earthquakes.
Look at it this way, denying this CO2 business does not mean that you are now anti environment, it just means that we should do everything to preserve, protect and respect nature instead of trying to rescue planet Earth with needless fear from a CO2 mistake. Our air is in fact cleaner than the smoggy 70’s, a fact that all of the enviro groups admit. We just have to remove this failed CO2 threat. And at the same time we are being the NEW GREENS of environmentalism, we can still see the need for directing our energies to real issues like the carnage on our highways, poverty, recycling, energy alternatives and better health care, housing and financial opportunities for more people to achieve a higher living standard.
The NEW GREENS are not just deniers; we are the new leaders of Rachel Carson’s environmental movement who don’t want to be remembered for perpetrating this climate WMD scam concerning the obviously failed CO2 theory.
Resulting cooling disproves predicted warming. Preserve, protect and respect our worldly surroundings.

]]> By: Антоха http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-374 Антоха Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:01:47 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-374 Сайт отличный. Вам награду бы за него или орден почета. ;) Сайт отличный. Вам награду бы за него или орден почета. ;)

]]> By: Climate Cafe: Climate Change Conversations » Archive » Meet our head Climate Negotiator – Canada http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-373 Climate Cafe: Climate Change Conversations » Archive » Meet our head Climate Negotiator – Canada Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:11:10 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-373 [...] http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426 [...] [...] http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426 [...]

]]> By: todd lucier http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-372 todd lucier Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:08:15 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-372 Hi Zoe, Thank you for tracking Canada's negotiators. It's extremely disappointing that our government continues to point fingers at other countries while completely ignoring our own (failed) international commitments. I look forward to following your work. Hi Zoe,
Thank you for tracking Canada’s negotiators. It’s extremely disappointing that our government continues to point fingers at other countries while completely ignoring our own (failed) international commitments.

I look forward to following your work.

]]> By: Zoe http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Zoe Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:48:50 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-82 Hi Beth, The Climate Action Network provides a good amount of information on their website (See the news section, Road to Copenhagen, Update from Bonn): http://www.climateactionnetwork.ca/e/ Asides from that site, I've tried to summarize the issues here as well: http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/19/canada-bonn-negotiations-wrap-up/ And finally, there really is not much happening, unfortunately. Canada is saying and doing very little. I'm not sure there is anyone with more information. The only thing I could offer would be a set of 2008 briefing notes that were acquired via an Access to Information Request. Would you be interested in reading those? Thanks, Zoë Hi Beth,

The Climate Action Network provides a good amount of information on their website (See the news section, Road to Copenhagen, Update from Bonn):

http://www.climateactionnetwork.ca/e/

Asides from that site, I’ve tried to summarize the issues here as well:

http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/19/canada-bonn-negotiations-wrap-up/

And finally, there really is not much happening, unfortunately. Canada is saying and doing very little. I’m not sure there is anyone with more information.

The only thing I could offer would be a set of 2008 briefing notes that were acquired via an Access to Information Request. Would you be interested in reading those?

Thanks,
Zoë

]]> By: Beth http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Beth Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:48:52 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-81 Hi Zoe, I just got your message from 'adopt a negotiator' and ended up here as I tried to get up to speed on what's happening before I write to Jim Prentice.As someone who cares but needs more details, I found Mr. Martin's answers to your questions devoid of any details at all.You asked great questions, he said nothing. If you have any links to sites that can fill me in on what's happening, I'd be most grateful. Thanks! Hi Zoe,
I just got your message from ‘adopt a negotiator’ and ended up here as I tried to get up to speed on what’s happening before I write to Jim Prentice.As someone who cares but needs more details, I found Mr. Martin’s answers to your questions devoid of any details at all.You asked great questions, he said nothing. If you have any links to sites that can fill me in on what’s happening, I’d be most grateful. Thanks!

]]> By: Zoë http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-80 Zoë Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:48:34 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-80 Thanks Adam - Have you written to Minister Prentice about this? It would be great to write to him with a specific reference to this conference. I think it is very helpful when citizens write letters to their ministers, and their Member of Parliament. Here is the info: Honourable Jim Prentice Minister of the Environment House of Commons Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A6 You can find your Member of Parliament and their information here: http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Compilations/HouseOfCommons/MemberByPostalCode.aspx?Menu=HOC Thanks Adam – Have you written to Minister Prentice about this? It would be great to write to him with a specific reference to this conference. I think it is very helpful when citizens write letters to their ministers, and their Member of Parliament.

Here is the info:

Honourable Jim Prentice
Minister of the Environment
House of Commons
Ottawa, Ontario
K1A 0A6

You can find your Member of Parliament and their information here:

http://www2.parl.gc.ca/Parlinfo/Compilations/HouseOfCommons/MemberByPostalCode.aspx?Menu=HOC

]]> By: Adam Scott http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-79 Adam Scott Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:05:11 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-79 Other than a 'constructive willingness to work on the text' I'm not detecting any discernible political mandate to negotiate in Bonn - other than a troubling insistence on 'broad participation' from developing countries. The question still remaining is: "We hear so much about what commitments you require from others. What firm commitments are Canada bringing to the table?" This is ideally directed at a minister of course. Thanks for reflecting the meetings back home Zoe. Other than a ‘constructive willingness to work on the text’ I’m not detecting any discernible political mandate to negotiate in Bonn – other than a troubling insistence on ‘broad participation’ from developing countries.

The question still remaining is: “We hear so much about what commitments you require from others. What firm commitments are Canada bringing to the table?”

This is ideally directed at a minister of course.

Thanks for reflecting the meetings back home Zoe.

]]> By: Mr. Michael Martin Answers Canadian’s Questions « It’s Getting Hot In Here http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/06/04/mr-michael-martin-answers-canadians-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-78 Mr. Michael Martin Answers Canadian’s Questions « It’s Getting Hot In Here Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:36:51 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=426#comment-78 [...] Read the answers here. [...] [...] Read the answers here. [...]

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