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]]> By: Philip Ireland http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-4707 Philip Ireland Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:59:26 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-4707 Ha! great to hear from you Livvy. I will indeed pass along your greetings. Thanks for the help : ) Ha! great to hear from you Livvy. I will indeed pass along your greetings. Thanks for the help : )

]]> By: Livvy http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-4706 Livvy Tue, 08 Dec 2009 09:54:22 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-4706 Hi, I was wondering if you could perhaps pass along my greetings to Louise Hand (being her child, I know she would appreciate it and perhaps it would be an incentive for her to meet with you more often) during your next meeting with her. Keep up the tracking! Thanks, Livvy p.s my sister says to tell you, that in terms of your future tshirt choices, ms hand appreciates pastels, delicate florals and stained glass hues Hi,
I was wondering if you could perhaps pass along my greetings to Louise Hand (being her child, I know she would appreciate it and perhaps it would be an incentive for her to meet with you more often) during your next meeting with her.
Keep up the tracking!
Thanks, Livvy
p.s my sister says to tell you, that in terms of your future tshirt choices, ms hand appreciates pastels, delicate florals and stained glass hues

]]> By: Philip Ireland http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-3158 Philip Ireland Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:22:23 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-3158 Hi all, Thanks once again for all your comments. I want to make a quick reply to David's Question "Are negotiaters such as Louise doing everything within their power to push for a level such as 40% or are they critical of such targets?" Its a good question... it is really hard to know. I think if the Government was to announce higher targets the negotiating team would really enjoy announcing them here. It would bring Australia a lot of popularity (in a strange UNFCCC kind of way). Are they pushing the government though? I don't know. I am probably meeting with the Ambassador this morning and will ask her myself. Thanks for the question! Hi all,
Thanks once again for all your comments. I want to make a quick reply to David’s Question “Are negotiaters such as Louise doing everything within their power to push for a level such as 40% or are they critical of such targets?”
Its a good question… it is really hard to know. I think if the Government was to announce higher targets the negotiating team would really enjoy announcing them here. It would bring Australia a lot of popularity (in a strange UNFCCC kind of way). Are they pushing the government though? I don’t know.

I am probably meeting with the Ambassador this morning and will ask her myself.
Thanks for the question!

]]> By: Joel Dignam http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-3151 Joel Dignam Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:27:08 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-3151 What about science? Whatever happened to reason? What about science? Whatever happened to reason?

]]> By: Jessie Wells http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-3141 Jessie Wells Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:10:38 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-3141 Thanks Phil for this post, and everyone for your comments It would be harrowing for the Australian government to stick to the line of 4 - 24% throughout these negotiations - stuck in a perspective so limited in its timescale and its reach beyond ourselves, stuck under the influence of industries that oppose change, and stuck in a view of the science that is now indefensible - repeating statements of 4-24% = 450ppm = 2 degrees, when our understanding of the climate system and the consequences of change have moved so much further. Even if we could see 2 degrees as acceptable (despite its dangers), we now know that 450ppm has a much higher chance of leading to warming of 4 C or more. - Including science published BY the Department of Climate Change itself! Steffen, W. (2009) "Climate change 2009: Faster change & more serious risks", Australian Government Department of Climate Change, Canberra, May 2009 http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/climate-change-faster-change-and-more-serious-risks-final.pdf We would be insane to accept the consequences of these policies for ourselves, and it is inconscionable to accept what they will do to other lives and the environment we share. Let's push Rudd, Wong and Swan to give our negotiators a decent platform! Thanks Phil for this post, and everyone for your comments

It would be harrowing for the Australian government to stick to the line of 4 – 24% throughout these negotiations
- stuck in a perspective so limited in its timescale and its reach beyond ourselves, stuck under the influence of industries that oppose change, and stuck in a view of the science that is now indefensible – repeating statements of 4-24% = 450ppm = 2 degrees, when our understanding of the climate system and the consequences of change have moved so much further.
Even if we could see 2 degrees as acceptable (despite its dangers), we now know that 450ppm has a much higher chance of leading to warming of 4 C or more.
- Including science published BY the Department of Climate Change itself!
Steffen, W. (2009) “Climate change 2009: Faster change & more serious risks”, Australian Government Department of Climate Change, Canberra, May 2009
http://www.anu.edu.au/climatechange/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/climate-change-faster-change-and-more-serious-risks-final.pdf

We would be insane to accept the consequences of these policies for ourselves,
and it is inconscionable to accept what they will do to other lives and the environment we share.

Let’s push Rudd, Wong and Swan to give our negotiators a decent platform!

]]> By: David http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-3140 David Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:05:30 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-3140 Hi Phil. Great that you got to meet with Louise. It would seem that these negotiations are living up to their expectations and that nothing new is being discussed. Are negotiaters such as Louise doing everything within their power to push for a level such as 40% or are they critical of such targets? Thanks for keeping us updated. Hi Phil. Great that you got to meet with Louise. It would seem that these negotiations are living up to their expectations and that nothing new is being discussed. Are negotiaters such as Louise doing everything within their power to push for a level such as 40% or are they critical of such targets? Thanks for keeping us updated.

]]> By: joe http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-3139 joe Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:00:48 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-3139 hi there.. thanks for the informative blog... it's all a bit outrageous. So much has been going on here in Australia to try and make our government see what we think is fair, but it seems like they haven't even noticed. good to hear you're able to have some one on one meetings. I hope there's a good outcome for climate financing and mitigation! hi there..
thanks for the informative blog… it’s all a bit outrageous. So much has been going on here in Australia to try and make our government see what we think is fair, but it seems like they haven’t even noticed.
good to hear you’re able to have some one on one meetings.
I hope there’s a good outcome for climate financing and mitigation!

]]> By: Ronnie Wright http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-3138 Ronnie Wright Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:49:50 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-3138 I would find this report really troubling if it weren’t for my already low expectations of these negotiations. That’s because the Australia government has set the bar so low that it will be a miracle if we get any kind of reasonable commitment from them. This government has yet to take this issue serious. The life of hundreds of millions of people is in the hands of the worlds leaders. Will Kevin Rudd go down in history as a great saviour and leader or as a mass murder that buckled to the will of big polluters and greed? Will he do the right thing or will he put big screen TV’s and all the other luxury stuff our economy provides ahead of the lives of little children who’s families don’t even own a light bulb let alone all the other stuff we buy to satisfy our greed. Will he do the right thing? I doubt it! I would find this report really troubling if it weren’t for my already low expectations of these negotiations. That’s because the Australia government has set the bar so low that it will be a miracle if we get any kind of reasonable commitment from them. This government has yet to take this issue serious. The life of hundreds of millions of people is in the hands of the worlds leaders. Will Kevin Rudd go down in history as a great saviour and leader or as a mass murder that buckled to the will of big polluters and greed?

Will he do the right thing or will he put big screen TV’s and all the other luxury stuff our economy provides ahead of the lives of little children who’s families don’t even own a light bulb let alone all the other stuff we buy to satisfy our greed.

Will he do the right thing? I doubt it!

]]> By: Cara http://adoptanegotiator.org/2009/11/03/my-first-date-with-an-ambassador/comment-page-1/#comment-3137 Cara Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:44:54 +0000 http://adoptanegotiator.org/?p=4571#comment-3137 Thanks for your update Phil! Great to hear the news direct from the talks, and from the government delegation. I echo the sentiments of everyone above and will be stepping up my lobbying of the Australian government. Right now, their positions don't gaurantee a safe future for any us. Yesterday I posted a letter to my Federal MP, Malcolm Turnbull, to the Prime Minister as well as Minister Wong with a photo of me at the 350 event I attended on October 24 and a letter detailing why I want to see our government develop climate policies in line with stabilising carbon in the atmosphere to 350ppm. Phil, keep up the pressure in Barcelona and I look forward to reading more of your blogs! Thanks for your update Phil! Great to hear the news direct from the talks, and from the government delegation.

I echo the sentiments of everyone above and will be stepping up my lobbying of the Australian government. Right now, their positions don’t gaurantee a safe future for any us.

Yesterday I posted a letter to my Federal MP, Malcolm Turnbull, to the Prime Minister as well as Minister Wong with a photo of me at the 350 event I attended on October 24 and a letter detailing why I want to see our government develop climate policies in line with stabilising carbon in the atmosphere to 350ppm.

Phil, keep up the pressure in Barcelona and I look forward to reading more of your blogs!

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